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Interview with Michelle Frost

Author of Elephant Songs

Michelle Frost has written an amazing book detailing her journey as a reluctant psychic. Elephant Songs is the autobiography of her life story from Africa to Scotland and from childhood brushes with spirits to a more mature spirituality. The book is engaging, honest, and very intriguing. Today she joins me to talk about the book and her experiences.  

Why did you decide to write an autobiography? How did it come about?

My mother was the first person to suggest that I write a book. She felt I should share my experiences, but every time I tried to write I’d start thinking about strangers actually reading my life and… I’d freeze up. Everything I wrote was stiff, deadly dull and boring. This book is very much owed to my internet friend, Richard Eldredge. He’s a rare thing – an open-minded sceptic. He’d constantly ask questions and I’d email back. By the time I’d finished answering all his questions I had 42 emails about my life and my abilities. They became the foundation of my book. 42 is the answer to “Life, the Universe and everything”, according to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams. How could I resist that cosmic joke?

Do you thinking growing up in Africa influenced your on-going spiritual life?

Definitely. Africa is steeped in mysticism and its people are far more aware of magic and the unknown. Things that would be laughed at in the West are still seen as perfectly normal in Africa. I grew up with first hand experiences of witchdoctor curses and cures as well as the legends of magical places and legendary beasts. Anything feels possible in Africa.

How important was it to your spiritual development to keep a dream journal?

I’d say that it helped my self-trust mostly. When I first started a dream journal my intention was to prove why my dreams came true. I was expecting to find a rational explanation, but instead all I proved was that I really was dreaming of things before they happened. Having that proof helped me come to terms with the fact I had psychic abilities. I’m a rational person at heart and simply trusting my intuition does not come easy for me. Having my journal to return to has enabled me to look back over decades and see patterns as well as reasons that I was completely clueless about at the time.

How did your hospital stay of 2005 affect your abilities?

It was the first of two events that changed my abilities. I woke up from surgery to find I could “see” and “hear” at a level I’d never had as an adult. I’d been able to see spirits as a very young child, but that faded quickly as I grew up. The surgery seemed to trigger some change. A friend of mine suggested that the anaesthetic and morphine acted on my brain in a similar manner to the hallucinogenic plants South American Shamans use.

By “see” and “hear” I mean a state of awareness that is more clear and real than imagination, but not literal seeing or hearing.

You had a spirit-guide who revealed himself over a long period. This experience was far from what is commonly reported. Can you tell us a little about that? What advise do you have for others whose experiences don’t match the textbook case?

My “spirit-guide” (we both know the label isn’t a perfect fit, but to say more would be a book spoiler) revealed himself after the second major event to change my abilities. I was writing my second book, Wisdoms of the Light (sequel to First Light), in 2013. Writing that book changed me. It was an intense experience and I wasn’t alone in feeling that. A psychic friend of mine offered to be an extra proof reader. When he finished reading through the first draft, he sent me a message his spirit-guide dictated for me:

You have grown exponentially of late and it is because of the book, because of the creative process employed with the book and the unusual way in which you created characters from self, from “ALL”, from else-where’s lifetimes, to both create a fascinating narrative and also a healing, consciousness raising/expanding experience for you.

It was about a week after I finished that first draft that I HEARD my spirit-guide speak for the first time. HEARD because he was loud, clear and very real. A life-changing moment I will never forget.

I can’t comment much on “what is commonly reported” since I haven’t read any books about other people’s experiences with spirit-guides. My advice to others would be to trust themselves and their “gut feeling” over anything they read or are taught/told. We are all unique and nothing works for everyone. If something feels wrong – trust that it is wrong for you and move on. Same with what feels right. I’d have saved myself a lot of stress and grief if I’d relied on my gut and intuition more than my intellect.

Your spirit-guide repeatedly tells you to “think from the heart, not the head.” What does he mean by this?

I can start by saying what he doesn’t mean, this isn’t about connecting to your emotions.

Let’s start with some basics. We tend to use the heart as a symbol of love and emotion, just as we use the brain to symbolise logic and intellectual deduction. I’d say that modern humans have become exceptionally “head bound”. We revere the brain and all things related to it: book learning, diplomas in knowing stuff, facts and figures. And as a result, we often see emotions as being unstable and more of a weakness than a strength.

My spirit-guide explained that there has to be balance between the two for any human to be completely healthy and productive, but this “thinking from the heart” is something more than that. When he says this, he points or presses his hand on a spot a few inches below my throat; a place roughly half way between heart and brain. He says this area is where we hold the energy he describes as “the higher heart energy”. It’s the place from where we connect to “All” – our higher self, God and/or the Cosmos. Here is where we experience those feelings we call intuition or genius; those moments when we simply KNOW something instantly without any need to mull it over in our brains or run it through our emotional heart. 

He constantly nags me about this higher heart thinking. I’m still struggling with this. I’ll have the moment of instantly knowing (higher heart intuition), but then my brain starts asking questions and my emotions run off in all directions like a flock of hysterical sheep.

Were you ever concerned that writing a book as deeply personal as this, might open you to ridicule? Has there been any negative pushback? What about support from surprising places?

I’ve worried mostly about accidentally hurting or offending anyone, since this is a book about my life where I do talk about my experiences and people I know, friends and family. Ridicule doesn’t worry me as much. I was teased for being skinny and sickly as a kid, laughed at for being overweight as a suddenly healthy teen and ridiculed for all sorts of things (politics, religion, nationality, gender, etc.) as an adult. I’m fairly immune at this stage. My main concern was to keep it truthful without causing harm to others.

So far, I’ve not had any negative pushback. As for support in surprising places… I’ve had a few people contact me to say thank you for writing the book. They’ve all been people who can relate as they’ve had similar experiences. That’s been awesome.

In a time when it appears more and more of us are “waking up,” how important is it that stories like yours find their way into the world?

This is why I agreed to publish in the first place, because people like my mom and friends said, “this is needed.” I know dozens of people who have psychic abilities or have had esoteric/spiritual experiences and been too afraid to admit that fact for most of their lives. That, to me, is a tragic waste of human potential.

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WHEN DEE MET KELLEY

John Dee Portrait- Ashmolean Museum

John Dee Portrait- Ashmolean Museum

February, 1582

Mortlake

Light flooded through the west window illuminating the simple study. The doors were closed against the noise of his toddler children. Within was sanctuary. Some especially interesting manuscripts had been hidden in a traveling bag secreted inside the chimney. The comings and goings at Mortlake had drawn many rumors which John Dee had carefully tried to sidestep. Owning one of the best libraries in Europe drew many scholarly types. Dee’s interests included math, astronomy, astrology, navigation, and the occult. He had access to the powerful ministers of Queen Elizabeth I’s court as well as to the Queen herself. Dee’s interests were not unique because many at court dabbled, but Dee hated the caricatured image created by the term “arch conjuror” he had been given in some circles.

Dee called his work optical science and for him crystal gazing was just another way of discovering how the universe worked much like using a telescope to understand the motion of the stars. But Dee had a problem. Not having the power to scry himself, he had to rely on others to do the gazing for him. Previously he had worked with Barnabas Saul but Saul had disappeared a few days earlier. Now a man named Talbot (later known as Edward Kelley) had appeared on his doorstep claiming to be able to do what Saul had done.

Dee’s expectations were modest but using a crystal ball, Talbot soon had a vision of the archangel Uriel. Unable to resist access to such a highly placed spirit, Dee asked about a coded manuscript he possessed. Uriel told him that The Book of Soyga (a copy resides in the British Library) was revealed to Adam in paradise and could only be understood with the help of Archangel Michael. In a later session, Uriel told Dee to construct a table to facilitate future angelic communications.

The table was to be set into four divine wax seals and each seal had to contain an image revealed by the angel. On the top of the table, resting on the Seal of God, a crystal ball or shew stone would be placed.

Objects belonging to Dee at the British Museum (photo: British Museum)

Objects belonging to Dee at the British Museum (photo: British Museum)

 

Later in the week, Talbot had a vision of the Archangel Michael anointing Dee. There was no doubt in Dee’s mind that some very special work lay ahead of the two men. Over the next decade Dee and Kelley would receive and communicate in Enochian, a fully developed angelic language. People still puzzle over those messages and their importance.

For more investigation:

John Dee’s Conversations with Angels– Deborah E. Harkness

The Queen’s Conjuror– Benjamin Woolley

John Dee’s Five Books of Mystery– Original Sourcebook of Enochian

Magic- Joseph H. Peterson

The Complete Enochian Dictionary– Donald C. Laylock

Enochian Alphabet- Vincent Bridges (YouTube- video, the importance of Dee’s

communication )

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